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Fast Food Bad Rep?

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Do Fast Food Outlets Get A Raw Deal?

They Deserve All The Criticism They Receive
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17%
They Aren't Entirely To Fault
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39%
Obesity Begins In The Home
2
11%
Shame The Consumers Not The Companies
6
33%
Other Viewpoint
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Total votes : 18

Postby Boss on Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:39 pm

I heard about that, but didn't watch it.

Frankly I think that's a disgusting way to eat. It's got to be medically risky and unhygenic. Even if you cook the stuff well or freeze it properly.
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Postby Tock on Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:00 am

That's gross, I wouldn't even touch roadkill with a 10ft barge pole :shock:
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Postby TheJordan on Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:46 am

Yea I don't think the companies are totally to blame, kind of like that lawsuit that was filed against Mc Donalds where the fat guy said that Mc Donalds was the reason he was fat because he ate there everyday. Of course you are going to get fat if you eat at Mc Donalds everyday, I think a big mac has 500 calories in itself and if you put a supersized coke and fries in there you are probably over 1500 calories right there.
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Postby HOUSTON TEXAN on Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:32 pm

Well you decide what to eat so its not the fast food company's fault that people want to eat that stuff.
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Postby Boss on Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:01 am

One possible counter argument to that is, yes it possibly could be, by the outlets being there anyway, allowing temptation to be there, and also people wanting the food, by what the food is. If Hamburgers had a filling of say Hummus, how many people would eat them then?

Woudl be a nice way ot get some Carbs and healthy Fats in your food, but the taste could maybe be likened to a deep fried dog turd, or something like that.

I read a comment by someone once, saying they used to eat that stuff sometimes, but owing to them moving house, to a location that was nowhere near a Fast Food outlet, they hadn't eaten any for about 3 years.

True people will eat it if it's there, and often of their own free choosing, and I admit I've done it before and would again if I felt like it, but I'm in control, and coupled with my lifestyle, occasionally having one or two hamburgers without trimmings, won't send me or my body up the creek without a paddle.

Also seductive merketing doesn't help. That's why Britain has now adopted, a no junk food ads before 7PM rule, on channels with advertising based incomes, in order to reduce the ability of children to watch such ads.

At least some junk food people have tried to change their ways.

I must commend the Walkers Crisps people, for their efforts in the last 4 years to do this.

Their Crisps now have less Salt, about 70% less Saturates, and contain Sunseed. So they may now have product you could reccomend as a now and again thing, without some parents thinking oh heck what am I letting my children do?

Funny enough briefly on the subject of ingesting bad things, one guy many months ago in Britain, e-mailed a news network, (who had asked on air for peoples views about Fizzy drinks), and said he didn't think the drinks represented a risk to his kids teeth, as he made his kids drink the fizzy stuff with straws, as he put it, "allowing the Sugar to bypass their Teeth."

The response of both presenters was pretty much, I doubt that, but nice to think so all the same ;).

You are totally right though, people eating it is pretty much voluntary. Marketing however seductive is not subliminal, or done with some kind of "Clockwork Orange" style brainwashing treatment, (Malcom McDowell may eat Fast food, I wouldn't know :P ), nor is marketing done with people coming round to your house, and then forcing fried meat down your throat by assaulting you, or making you do it with a Gun to your head.

Problem is though, the alternatives.

You could go somewhere like an eatery, or restaurant, that might be open at 12:00PM, and might serve say a Steak and a Baked Potato, effectively a Beef and Carbs alternative to Hamburgers, but you'll pay at least about £6.50 for the meal no doubt, and depending on the Steak cut you order, up to £10.50, rough price range for a good standard outlet. Obviously snootier outlets possibly with a no child policy, you'll pay over the odds.

For the same amount of Beef and Carbs at Mc'D, probably about £1.95 or less, for two Hamburgers and no trimmings, both scenarios exclude a drink, and probably at least 10 minutes less waiting time, so for price and convenience, Fast food places will win out, even if better alternatives are available during things like workers Lunch breaks.

P.S. Good to have you on board :).
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Postby Collima on Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:26 am

I've read through the postings thus far regarding this poll....everyone has had a valid point of view.

The connection between health, obesity, what we put in our mouths, and capitalism is intricaly linked and these issues are extremely complicated to sift down to a single "bad guy" who is to blame.....believe me, I know of what I speak of.

I used to weigh over 350 lbs. I am a woman who is not quite 62 inches tall.

I now wear a size 8 dress as a result of losing over 200 lbs without surgery, a fad diet, a commercial weight loss program, or any of that nonsense.

If we look back at the history of obesity (I am only refering to the history in the United States, as this is all that I personally know), I believe that it can be traced back to the introduction of high fructose corn syrup into our commercial food supply. HFC was added to processed commercial foods because its shelf life was longer than other forms of sugar, plus, it was cost effective - no, make that CHEAP - to add, so the manufacturers made a nice profit.

Secondly, there is a current theory - one that I personally subscribe to - that some people's bodies have not caught up with evolution, they cannot metabolize processed sugar. Much in the same way that an alcoholic cannot drink successfully (meaning he cannot limit his alcohol intake once he begins drinking anything with alcohol in it because he will invariabley get drunk), those of us with the faulty metabolisms cannot eat processed sugar successfully without experienceing the craving for more food with sugar in it. There are current scientific studies being done that are providing evidence to validate this hypothesis.

Now, I think that what has been happening in the commercial food industry with the addition of HFC is along the same thing that was being done by the cigarette manufacturing industry: they know that this substance is addictive and using it to their commerical advantage. Isn't capitalism great?!!

What is termed the "obesity epidemic" should be, in my opinion, viewed as a food addiction epidemic with obesity as its manifestation. Treat the addiction and the manifestation goes away.

But this will NEVER happen!

Why?

Big business absolutely LOVES fat people!

What would happen to:

[list]weight loss centers, like Jenny Craig
weight programs like Weight Watchers
Diet book authors and book sellers
Pharmaceutical companies selling the latest diet pill (that the FDA will pull after "x" number of people die from using it)
Scientists employed by the thing companies to develop another weight loss pill
The physicians who love to yell at fat people to "lose weight" but really lose them because fat people build their business with return trips for all the other problems caused by obesity - diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, (just to name a very few)
Again, the thing companies who make a fortune to develop and sell things to treat the secondary manifestations of obesity
The surgeons who pay for their yachts by rewireing fat people's intestines
The surgeons who get paid for performing services due to the secondary manifestations of obesity
Specialized clothing stores for the obese

These aren't even touching the dollars that sellers would lose by folks not buying cheap fast food! ....but I'm sure that you get my point.

OK, I am now getting off of my soapbox.....I just feel passionately about this subject!

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